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Tails OS: I don't trust it, should YOU?
Posted by Anonymous on Tue 25th Sep 2012 10:15
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  1. Tails OS: I don't trust it
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  3. A simple Q&A in this thread turned into trash:
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  5. https://tails.boum.org/forum/0.13_-_new_problem_-_dropped_packets_being_logged/
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  7. The frustrated user posted:
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  10. I use Tails to use Tor. I expect Tor to work as designed. Tails giving a hello, encrypted or not, back to the mothership, reminds me of most Windows machines which hit Microsoft's time server(s) with each boot.
  11. Instead of leading me in different directions, talking me through a maze of other options, please tell me how to disable this communication between my boot-up of Tails and the Tails server(s): the initial count or ping/hello and the security checks.
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  13. I know how to check your site for updates. I don't need the program checking and I don't want any boot stats provided to you from my system, encrypted or not.
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  15. Please tell me how to disable all of that - without the info on building my own Tails distro. It cannot be that difficult. This is an open OS, right? Let's appear more open in our replies and to the point.
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  19. No clear answer was given, but some user(s) rushed in to aid:
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  21. "And this is precisely what have been implemented"
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  23. Seriously now. PELD just documents your implementation, written in RFC style to appear more profound. I bet intrigeri wrote that part after implementing the feature in Incognito first.
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  25. And FFS, listen to your users. You can start with one of those useless TODO pages, outlining different approaches to checking for updates, and the way for users to control those.
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  29. "Sorry, but it is the opposite. We usually first design and then implement, as most good software development practice advice to do. The PELD has been written a long time ago. It is periodically updated when we find and design new features / issues. Usually through the cycle of writing todo pages where ideas are discussed."
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  31. LOL. Are you the bullshitter in charge or something? Have you considered the career of presidential press-secretary or similar? I find it amazing how all you seem to care about is damage control using weasel words and hand-waving, and are completely disinterested in the actual truth.
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  33. Let me help you here. Commit adding the real-world experience passage: Dec 14, 2010. Security checker implementation: Feb 4, 2010.
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  35. In other words: Incognito's documentation has been adapted to the situation in Amnesia after-the-fact. Nothing was discussed. No TODO pages were created. Amnesia was "pinging the mothership", in words of the user above, long before PELD was imported and updated. That passage did not exist. Will you admit now that you were plain out bullshitting, or do I need to play out the whole dead parrot scene by Monty Python?
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  37. "We already do that, sorry if you are not our only user."
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  39. I am not even the same guy. You seem to have a problem with the idea that more than one person might disagree with your "one true vision".
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  41. "For other people, please don't come into his game by replying to his provocations."
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  43. Whereas all you are doing is replying to non-provocations with bullshit. Well done!
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  46. Finally, the OP responded:
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  48. "I find it amazing how all you seem to care about is damage control using weasel words and hand-waving, and are completely disinterested in the actual truth"
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  50. Agreed, I've never encountered such defensive, empty, and negative, or out right hostile responses as I have here, especially to simple questions!
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  52. This is the last version of Tails I use. It's easier to pick from any number of Linux distros and use a LiveCD with TBB and not run into stupid shit and the same for answers.
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  54. Have fun 'counting' others, or whatever bullshit voodoo you have going on in scripts and/or binaries you fail to deliver simple answers for, there will no longer be any Whispers, backs, or TAILS for me anymore.
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  56. Heads, I win..
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  58. Tails you lose!
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  61. When you begin picking apart their distro, asking simple questions, even something as simple as why java exists in their distro, why so many java related packages, how to disable wpa_supplicant, communication with their mothership (through WhisperBack or other means), you must be a troll.
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  63. I don't trust <a href="http://i394.photobucket.com/albums/pp22/johnnySmitty_album/richard_simmons_5334993.jpg">TailsOS</a>, for reasons here and for others which I'll keep to myself.
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  65. Whether you, the public, continues to is entirely up to you.

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